California Proposition 3 passed. Could be a path to legal plural marriage

[Soldier4Jesus]

So one of the things on the ballot in California was Proposition 3, which passed on November 5. So the law will into effect next year.

It is my understanding this is an amendment to the state constitution and removed the legal wording defining marriage as “One man and One woman” and replaces it with that everybody has a “fundamental right to marriage”.

I am reading some articles that this could be interpreted to allow polygamous full legal marriage between more two people. The new wording does not specify or restrict how many people may enter into marriage, nor does it address what the genders of those persons marrying is. This is very interesting and I will be watching closely how it plays out after it becomes law.

 

[MeganC]

Proposition 3 also opens the door to Islamic marriage.

Which gets child molest legalized when some sick bastard from Iraq moves to California with his NINE YEAR OLD wife.

MSN

 

[steve]

I wouldn’t advise anyone to attempt anything righteous in that state, perversion is their god.
A girl that I know is fixin to be bullied out of a community college after she admitted voting against their darling.

Although the hinterlands are getting awfully red.

 

[Mark C]

And if you take a 'license' in Kalifornia - remember, that gives them claim (as if they didn't already assume such) to come take you kids, and do as they like with them - from terminal dumbing-down, to genital mutilation and drugging.

 

[MemeFan]

And if you take a 'license' in Kalifornia - remember, that gives them claim (as if they didn't already assume such) to come take you kids, and do as they like with them - from terminal dumbing-down, to genital mutilation and drugging.

Many California cities are charter ones. They could add new duties to local sheriffs to help with such issues.

Or add no money/automatic firings for public teachers/social workers found.

 

[MemeFan]

I wouldn’t advise anyone to attempt anything righteous in that state, perversion is their god.
A girl that I know is fixin to be bullied out of a community college after she admitted voting against their darling.

Although the hinterlands are getting awfully red.

Big cities are source of problem. Only metropolitan areas are blue. Suburbs and rest is normal.

 

[steve]

Big cities are source of problem. Only metropolitan areas are blue. Suburbs and rest is normal.

Yeah, the cities shrunk slightly this year.

 

[MeganC]

Many California cities are charter ones.

A few years ago the State of California at the behest of powerful real estate interests in Southern California nullified the legal powers of charter cities in California with a ruling that imposed water meters on those cities.

In the greater scheme of things this was an obscure ruling. But the net effect in California is those charter cities are now reduced to vassals of State government.

 

[MemeFan]

A few years ago the State of California at the behest of powerful real estate interests in Southern California nullified the legal powers of charter cities in California with a ruling that imposed water meters on those cities.

In the greater scheme of things this was an obscure ruling. But the net effect in California is those charter cities are now reduced to vassals of State government.

Using courts to fight state would be best.

But understanding sheriff can make inspectors visits very unwelcome. Same welcome party can be provided by population.

I still remember video how NH tax agency people were shamed into leaving and not taxing Porcfest festival in NH.

 

[IndianaLife]

Proposition 3 also opens the door to Islamic marriage.

Which gets child molest legalized when some sick bastard from Iraq moves to California with his NINE YEAR OLD wife.

MSN

Except that's a fraction of a fraction of a percent of Muslims, and it sure sounds like you're just assuming they are all pedophiles. It wouldn't change age of consent in California illegal, making any marital relations still incredibly illegal in that situation. By percentage, I'd hazard a guess that those involved in Christian churches and Christian schools have been guilty of as many, if not more, heinous acts against children in the United States than Muslims in the United States.

I wish people would stop trying to lump an entire religion in as bad people.

 

[MeganC]

Except that's a fraction of a fraction of a percent of Muslims, and it sure sounds like you're just assuming they are all pedophiles.

There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it.

- Recep Erdgoan

And he is right.

The reference here is that in Sharia Law the age for marriage coincides with puberty and that is further defined in
As-Sayyid Sabiq, Fiqh us-Sunnah (The Book on Acts of Worship) which says:

Fiqh 1.69: Menstruation ... Most scholars say that its time begins at the age of nine.

 

[MeganC]

and it sure sounds like you're just assuming they are all pedophiles.

Because if they are observant Muslims then by Western definitions they are pedophiles.

It wouldn't change age of consent in California illegal, making any marital relations still incredibly illegal in that situation.

Nonsense. Islamic polygamist families that move to the US have their marriages recognized and accommodated. What is your basis in law or judicial precedent that says Islamic child marriages won't be upheld by US courts?

Here is a discussion of US vs Sharia Law that points out the issue with the age of consent and child marriages:

https://fedsoc.org/fedsoc-review/american-family-law-and-sharia-compliant-marriages

Nikah Nama/Muta—Marriage:

The marriage, or nikah, is usually negotiated for the bride by her parents, or a relative as representative, called a wali. The marriage contract is often arranged once the woman is considered to have reached puberty. While practices vary by region, some girls as young as nine have been considered eligible for marital commitment.

So your tender politically correct feelings about Islam aside the fact is that Islamic Law is making inroads in the West and their child marriages will have the weight of law in the West unless we put an end to it.

I wish people would stop trying to lump an entire religion in as bad people.

I wish people would pull their heads out of their rectums and stop pussy footing with a totalitarian socio-political-religious system whose very foundations are anathema to Western concepts of personal liberty.

National Socialism surely had some nice adherents who didn't hate Jews and anyone else the Nazis didn't like and the same can be said for Islam.

Yet we still eradicated National Socialism for the very same reasons we should not tolerate Islam.

 

[MeganC]

By percentage, I'd hazard a guess that those involved in Christian churches and Christian schools have been guilty of as many, if not more, heinous acts against children in the United States than Muslims in the United States.

I wish people would stop trying to lump an entire religion in as bad people.

Slamming Christians doesn't make your case for Muslims.

 

[The Revolting Man]

And he is right.

The reference here is that in Sharia Law the age for marriage coincides with puberty and that is further defined in
As-Sayyid Sabiq, Fiqh us-Sunnah (The Book on Acts of Worship) which says:

And that’s not even dealing with the hideousness that gets extrapolated out of Surah 30.

 

[MemeFan]

A few years ago the State of California at the behest of powerful real estate interests in Southern California nullified the legal powers of charter cities in California with a ruling that imposed water meters on those cities.

In the greater scheme of things this was an obscure ruling. But the net effect in California is those charter cities are now reduced to vassals of State government.

Huntington Beach in California has created voter ID law. State of California has lost lawsuit:

Court Dismisses California's Lawsuit Against City's Voter ID Law | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

So Charter cities in Cali can be great. So state is salvageable.

 

[IndianaLife]

Slamming Christians doesn't make your case for Muslims.

I'm not slamming Christians. Entire Christians schools have been shut down over repeated sexual assault cases against students. Plenty of dirtbag self-proclaimed "Christians" exist. Just because someone is Muslim doesn't make them a pedophile, nor is labeling them all such Christlike.

 

[Mark C]

Plenty of dirtbag self-proclaimed "Christians" exist. Just because someone is Muslim doesn't make them a pedophile, nor is labeling them all such Christlike.

A big part of the problem that some of us here have with self-proclaimed "christians" is that they don't read their own Holy Book, much less understand it.

In contrast, the issue (speaking for myself) that I have with Islam is that too many of them DO read theirs.

 

[MeganC]

Just because someone is Muslim doesn't make them a pedophile

True, just like not every Nazi hated the Jews.

This does not change the fact that the vast majority of Muslims approve of child marriage. It is part of their belief system.