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DeathIsNotTheEnd

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...which is a bit of a misnomer as we're currently here in the states and won't be back until January 2019 lol, God willing, but I thought it was a catchy introduction ;)


So. Yup. I'm Mark. Hate introductions, never sure where to start and it's reflected in my 'About Me' on my profile. *shrug*. Also haven't decided what to do for a profile pic so bear with me for now.

Let me say first what I'm looking for and then a bit about myself, because honestly I'm not sure where to start posting or who to ask.

I'm looking for fellowship with other believers in Christ that share my understanding of the morality and goodness of Biblical polygyny. Looking for encouragement in a world and--especially in the West--culture that hates it, especially in the 'Church' :\ Looking for wisdom as well for those who have dealt with some of the struggles surrounding it and especially in terms of how it relates to the first wife. **And I'm going to throw in a disclaimer, because I'm a sensitive soul lol...please respond in Christlike love and not judgementalism...I deal with that enough in the rest of the Church**


So now time to go out on a limb and share a bit about my own story.

I grew up in the typical Christian church that preached monogamy and monogamy only. By the time I was in college I had started to question whether we were really designed to be in monogamous relationships (in any sense, friendship, romantic, etc), when God is not monogamous in that sense (He is faithful to us, but even within Himself is a trinity...and He is married to each of us!). I wrestled with this for a long time, and contented myself with simple friendships with the opposite sex (which I still believe in wholeheartedly!). But it was no more than a lingering question until the rubber hit the road so to speak when, after being happily married for a number of years, I fell in love with another woman, while simultaneously having the deepest love for my wife. HOW COULD THIS BE?! I heard the voices of all of western culture screaming at me, and as my wife was not ready to accept a sister-wife at the time, I had to end the relationship (I say that...don't take it wrongly, I just mean 'before one began'). It was one of the most painful experiences of my life, but I did what was neccesary to keep the peace and be loving to my beloved. But it forced on me the realization that it is indeed possible for a man to love more than one woman equally at the same time, and for neither relationship to hurt the other (in theory). After much prayer, soul searching, and Bible study (and some helpful words from mentors and friends) I came to realize that this was because God designed men to be naturally polgamous (or, polygyny-able?), and not only permitted it but seemed to encourage and provide it in the Bible (David's example). Since then, while I'm still saddened at the loss of what could have been a wonderful, loving relationship, I have talked with my wife about the issue and, praise God, after her own study she came to realize the truth as well. Her head and her emotions are at odds though, and she has warned me that while she supports polygyny theologically, she is not able to accept such a marriage herself and so I have accepted that until the Holy Spirit changes her heart, I can be content in my current situation :)

As to who I am: I'm an artist, pure and simple. And seeking to be a Knight in Shining Armor for Christ. That's the term I always use, for several reasons: one, it speaks to my heart for others, especially the lonely, especially women (and I don't mean that in a romantic/PUA sense). Two, it speaks to my belief in chivalry, gentleman-ness, Biblical marriage roles, and a general disgust towards modern feminism and how it has infected our culture. And lastly, it speaks to my calling. I have a heart for the people and country of Japan, and my wife and I have been called to work as tentmaking missionaries there, to be salt and light. I've had the wonderfully affirming but simultaneously overwhelming experience of being told by a (non-believing) Japanese friend of mine that they felt "[you] and your wife seem like sunlight reaching down into the crappy darkness of my life to pull me up out of the mud". Yikes. Talk about pressure lol. It's been a process of remembering constantly that the onus is not on me, but Christ, to 'save' others...all I can do and be is who He has made me.
 
Welcome aboard!
 
Welcome! I am also glad to hear you found mentors and friends who encouraged you in this direction, shows how there are people everywhere willing to think carefully about God's opinion on this rather than the world's.
Well, yeah. By that I mean, like 2 people, and then a few people online. Nobody in my immediate family besides my brother knows about this idea of mine, and while he is supportive he is somewhat pessimistic about it lol. My father-in-law, ironically, although he believes polygyny is Biblical, has not expressed much support (and I haven't really directly asked him about the issue, just brought it up casually as a theory). I'm fully aware that really discussing this...like, REALLY, as in 'with intent', would get me quickly crucified socially by most everyone I know, especially the church. In fact I was going to write a post about just that issue, but, yes: the reality is that while I may keep my closest friends (we already disagree on some other things so, I doubt that would affect it much, assuming my first wife was on-board), I'm fairly certain everyone else would quickly disappear :(

My hope in talking here with you all is to alleviate some of that feeling of loneliness that comes from feeling like the only one who knows anything in a culture of the brainwashed and the blind :\
 
Welcome to BF! I was talking with Samuel (FollowingHim - my hubby) about your post and he said I should reply myself and tell you what I think, so here I am.

and as my wife was not ready to accept a sister-wife at the time, I had to end the relationship (I say that...don't take it wrongly, I just mean 'before one began'). It was one of the most painful experiences of my life, but I did what was neccesary to keep the peace and be loving to my beloved.
Her head and her emotions are at odds though, and she has warned me that while she supports polygyny theologically, she is not able to accept such a marriage herself and so I have accepted that until the Holy Spirit changes her heart, I can be content in my current situation :)

This is love. This is showing so much love to your wife, and it's wonderful to see. I love that you haven't jumped the gun. I love that you're not only going slow, you've basically stopped and are waiting on the Holy Spirit before you go any further if that's ever the plan.

If your wife wants to join up and chat with us women we'd love to get to know her. It's totally OK that she doesn't want it for herself, there's all sorts of women on here with many different needs and wants and all in different situations. It makes for some interesting chats :D. There is the ladies section on the forum, but we also have a ladies chat on Monday nights, 7.30pm Eastern.
 
Welcome to BF! I was talking with Samuel (FollowingHim - my hubby) about your post and he said I should reply myself and tell you what I think, so here I am.

This is love. This is showing so much love to your wife, and it's wonderful to see. I love that you haven't jumped the gun. I love that you're not only going slow, you've basically stopped and are waiting on the Holy Spirit before you go any further if that's ever the plan.

If your wife wants to join up and chat with us women we'd love to get to know her. It's totally OK that she doesn't want it for herself, there's all sorts of women on here with many different needs and wants and all in different situations. It makes for some interesting chats :D. There is the ladies section on the forum, but we also have a ladies chat on Monday nights, 7.30pm Eastern.

This made me cry. Thank you :)

I wish more of the world was like you guys. I knew I made the right choice in posting here.

I am. I know that if God wants a change to happen, He will make it happen. If anyone is ever interested I'll tell you how we ended up being missionaries to Japan, because that's truly a God thing, but long story short: for the longest time my wife felt called to Mexico. We were at odds...she was willing to submit to my leading but I was adamant that true love means that I seek not just God's calling on my life, but hers as well. I knew that God had given us our separate calls for a reason, and He would find a way to work them out, or we'd find a way to compromise. Anyway, one week she went to a ladies' prayer retreat, and while praying one night that God would change my heart and call me to Mexico, she felt very distinctly God's voice say "what if instead I change your heart?", and from that moment she did a complete 180* and has been my greatest supporter. She says that she realized before seeking some other goal she needed to seek unity in our marriage, and as soon as she did, BAM. So, I have seen it happen. If God wants me to have a second wife, He can change her heart as well. I am, of course, always open to suggestions on how to bring her around! lol. But I'm capable of being content, and for now it's more important to me that I do THIS marriage right before fulfilling some deep longing for more companionship haha.
 
Welcome!

Love your story and your mindset too. :)

I definitely second the invitation for your wife to join the chat with us ladies. We would love to have her!
 
Blessings, brother!

You've definitely come to the right place!!
 
There are more people who think this way than you realise, you just don't know who they are because they're equally reluctant to talk about it for the same reasons as yourself. You will be less alone than you realise.
Thanks man :) I appreciate it.
My head knows that...but my heart doesn't often feel it. Although, I suppose that's the case of most things in our walk with Christ...hence why we require faith lol. If it was as easy as knowing, the Devil would be up there with the best of them :\
 
Welcome!
 
Shalom!
And that whole head and heart issue with your wife??? That's also more common than you know.
You've come to the right place.
Thanks man!
I'm always open to suggestions on how to help her overcome that haha...but that's why for now I'm trusting the Holy Spirit knows what He's doing :)
 
Welcome! Welcome!

Glad to have you and have already enjoyed several of your posts. Glad to see you are taking it slow and considerate and being very deliberate. This is definitely a journey not a destination.
 
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