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Not all Wives are Capable of Monogamy Only

OttoM

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1 Corinthians 7:5
Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

(Of course - sexual relations are to be refrained during the wife's monthly period, and after her giving birth. So the Creator already gives the wives plenty of time of break and rest).

Not depriving of sexual relations goes back to Torah:

Exodus 21:10
If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and sexual relations.

This is a commandment that is rarely broken in the beginning part of the marriage. But after a few kids - this one gets broken in marriage. The fruit that shows this to be true are the studies that show that as many as 55% of married men watch porn.

Increase in porn viewers fuels the sex trafficking and prostitution business. Then you have married men sleeping with side mistresses. He gets her pregnant - or he gets caught - and then divorce becomes the likely outcome; and then the destruction of the family unit. However, according to the instructions in Scripture, the married wife shares in part of the blame/sin if she was refusing her husband sexual relations that are part of the marriage covenant.

Of course - polygyny is a solution found in the Creator's Righteous, Holy, and Perfect Law. The widows with little children are those that would most benefit in a polygynous society - because the chances of finding a decent husband in a monogamous society is very low. Most decent husbands that have been brainwashed by monogamy only - are looking elsewhere. However, decent and capable husbands that know the truth - would gladly provide for widows and their children - which means taking on additional wives.

The 1st wife also has additional help with her household tasks - having a friend to talk to - having more equally yoked children in the household that can grow up together. So all glory and praise to Yahuah - the Heavenly Father - for his Wisdom and Righteous Instructions.
 
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Earth_is- said:
This is a commandment that is rarely broken in the beginning part of the marriage. But after a few kids - this one gets broken in marriage. The fruit that shows this to be true are the studies that show that as many as 55% of married men watch porn.
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Think a little.

If men are poly, then getting sex from his wife may not be enough. So watching porn is more proof than men are poly than not getting sex from wife.

Porn does better in providing variety than sex with one wife.

Saw post yesterday on Twitter claiming that dads in neighboorhood used to meet at 5:30 am beause one single mother used to take shower at that time while providding some "public visibility" how she doing showering.
 
MemeFan said:
If men are poly, then getting sex from his wife may not be enough. So watching porn is more proof than men are poly than not getting sex from wife.

Porn does better in providing variety than sex with one wife.

Saw post yesterday on Twitter claiming that dads in neighboorhood used to meet at 5:30 am beause one single mother used to take shower at that time while providding some "public visibility" how she doing showering.
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Our society is a backwards society grounded on Greco/Roman law. Christians refuse to let go of their Greco/Roman law when there's a conflict with the Creator's law/instructions. They believe they are "Holy" for their monogamy only, but it's only bringing judgement; because it has caused widows with children not being properly covered.

Isaiah 65:5
I am holier than you!’ These people are a stench in my nostrils, an acrid smell that never goes away.

Men are obviously built very different than women. A man can start a marriage in his 30's and 40's and still be young. Even in his 50's and 60's. But for a woman - she's fruitful for children during a very short window. From 18 (legal age of marriage) to the 30's (depending on the woman).
 
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Earth_is- said:
Our society is a backwards society grounded on Greco/Roman law. Christians refuse to let go of their Greco/Roman law when there's a conflict with the Creator's law/instructions. They believe they are "Holy" for their monogamy only, but it's only bringing judgement; because it has caused widows with children not being properly covered.
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And Old Germanic Law influences.
 
Agreed...so we are now going to beat up old Italians, Greeks and a few Germans

Y'all form up to take the first wave, I will come straight down the middle and go through the nonagenarians like a a wrecking ball. I am not a'feared of their zimmer frames or oxygen masks


#off coffee for a while so I am feuled by whimsy
#dont want nonsense, then don't put similar threads link below that catches my eye
#why aren't my tags working
#suspiscious
 
If polygyny is the solution for a woman not having enough sex with their husband than what is the solution for men not having enough sex with their wife?
 
theleastofthese said:
If polygyny is the solution for a woman not having enough sex with their husband
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Why would this be a solution to a woman not having enough sex with their husband. If anything, she going to get less sex, not more, if he takes more wives. He has to spread himself around more.
 
NBTX11 said:
Why would this be a solution to a woman not having enough sex with their husband. If anything, she going to get less sex, not more, if he takes more wives. He has to spread himself around more.
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The way I understood the post was that polygyny is a solution for men when their wives won't have enough sex with them. I'm asking in turn, what is the solution for women when their husbands will not have enough with them?
Earth_is- said:
the married wife shares in part of the blame/sin if she was refusing her husband sexual relations that are part of the marriage covenant.
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NBTX11 said:
Why would this be a solution to a woman not having enough sex with their husband. If anything, she going to get less sex, not more, if he takes more wives. He has to spread himself around more.
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It can be solution for both issues if all three see rise in libido.
 
theleastofthese said:
The way I understood the post was that polygyny is a solution for men when their wives won't have enough sex with them. I'm asking in turn, what is the solution for women when their husbands will not have enough with them?
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Formally thinking not many.

She can try that it's his duty and/or speak with pastor.

I would personally try:
1. Go to bed earlier and await husband in birthday suit
2. Offer massage or something similar to put him in mood
3. Bless food with good aphrodisiac's dosage
4. Wear more suggestive clothing

It's possible stress is killing husband libido, so any reduction here would help.
 
MemeFan said:
It can be solution for both issues if all three see rise in libido.
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Common outcome after taking a new wife

Also a good idea for the husband to inculcate himself with the notion that he needs to up his proverbial game with first wife/wives if taking on a new wife. The temptation will be to just wallow in the new relationship energy with the new wife. To my mind it is also an opportunity to help reignite fires that might not be stoked as often as they once were.
If having a lot of intercourse in service of your marriages seems a particularly onerous task, there is a chance you may have queued up at the wrong window initially.
 
The point I was attempting to make is that if Yah designed polygyny as an option for men because the sex drive of the first wife eventually slows down then why does scripture also mention that a man should not deny his wife sex and what is the alternative for the wife if she finds herself in the same situation? Surely it's not polygamy...
 
NBTX11 said:
The husband can help her in "other" ways sexually. He can also seek medical care to increase his drive, for example if he is naturally low on testosterone. There are solutions and work arounds.
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Then why can't the first wife do that? Instead of bringing in a second wife? I'm pointing out the one sided-ness of the argument.
 
frederick said:
Since there is no scriptural prohibition of the wives taking care of one another, the solution is straightforward. Why do we complicate things?
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That has always seemed like it would be a poor substitute for the real thing....and I'm way too spoiled to think that would be a good idea! Like trying to do a job without the right "tools".... in a word.....frustrating!
 
NBTX11 said:
The husband can help her in "other" ways sexually. He can also seek medical care to increase his drive, for example if he is naturally low on testosterone. There are solutions and work arounds.
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theleastofthese said:
why can't the first wife do that? Instead of bringing in a second wife? I'm pointing out the one sided-ness of the argument.
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There's other reasons why a husband would deny his 1st wife - sexual relations. It doesn't have to be a lack of sex drive - it could be for punishment. Torah here protects the wife from the husband denying her sexual relations.

If the man has a serious lack of sexual drive - where it's affecting the 1st wife in a negative way - then he is not suited for a 2nd wife. Just like he wouldn't be suited for a 2nd wife if he's already having trouble providing food, and covering for the 1st wife.
 
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