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Fellowship with other believers

MemeFan said:
This, again, has nothing with Scripture. It has everything with social dynamics.

Basic idea is that society has sort of "immune system" against bad ideas. It's emotional response which blocks clear thinking.

So, if you connect somebody or some idea with what society considers morally disastrious, you activate in people "disguist circuit" (immune defense). So in your hoats minds, polygyny is connected with child marriage. This is way they wanted to talk about that Nexflix show.

Next time you should tell them child marriage is evil and you are against that.

You have to realize, some people are more likely to question societal morality. And if you find you thing problematic, you are more likely to find another thing problematic too. So it's easy to finish in situation where you finish as social outcast because of question too much things or you hit one of big taboos (child marriage, incest etc...).

This is way some people finish as supporters of polygyny, arranged marriage and child marriage. No wonder such people are societal outcast and have problem with law enforcement.

This article by Tom Luongo is good description of dynamics. It's political, but same idea:

tomluongo.me

Kavanaugh, the Disgust Circuit and the Limits of "Nuts and Sluts" - Gold Goats 'n Guns

The Ragin’ Cajun, I believe, coined the phrase “Nuts and Sluts” to succinctly describe the tactic used by the elites I call The Davos Crowd to smear and destroy someone they’ve targeted. Brett Kavanaugh is the latest victim of this technique. But, there have been dozens of victims I can list...
tomluongo.me tomluongo.me
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You are exactly right.
So what is the way forward here, bend to your community, or find new community, or become a wandering nomad on the face of the earth.
To be frank option 3 is starting to look really appealing to me right now.
 
RealmUncertain said:
You are exactly right.
So what is the way forward here, bend to your community, or find new community, or become a wandering nomad on the face of the earth.
To be frank option 3 is starting to look really appealing to me right now.
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Fourth option: Don't allow people to throw verbal sh.t on you.

This is only realistic option. Sadly, there will always be people who are willing to bad or even uproven things which can damage your reputation.
 
It's hard to find complete theological agreement on everything with anyone.

I agree with the people at my church on almost everything, though we would differ on polygyny and patriarchy (they are complementarian).

I agree with the folks here that polygyny is legitimate in the sight of God, and that patriarchy is the proper Biblical order but I would disagree with many on a variety of other doctrinal matters.

I think we can afford to be charitable with our brothers and sisters in Christ. We can "agree to disagree" with each other on a variety of topics.

The trouble is that most mainstream Christians have such a strong cultural bias against polygyny that they would likely throw you out of church more quickly over this issue, than denying the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ.
 
After thinking more about it, I am led to think that my friends wife set him up to it. This may be my assumption, but now I just feel bad for him.
He used to go on and on about how Trump was the best thing in the world after Jesus but his wife never agreed with this. One day all of a sudden he went 360 the other way. I always thought the sudden remarkable change in attitude was too dramatic to be the organic product of his own mind.

Anyhow, now am just gossiping. 😅

Bartato said:
It's hard to find complete theological agreement on everything with anyone.

I agree with the people at my church on almost everything, though we would differ on polygyny and patriarchy (they are complementarian).

I agree with the folks here that polygyny is legitimate in the sight of God, and that patriarchy is the proper Biblical order but I would disagree with many on a variety of other doctrinal matters.

I think we can afford to be charitable with our brothers and sisters in Christ. We can "agree to disagree" with each other on a variety of topics.

The trouble is that most mainstream Christians have such a strong cultural bias against polygyny that they would likely throw you out of church more quickly over this issue, than denying the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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You are right about this. I think there is stronger reaction to Polygyny than most other things. I don't even really care about Polygyny, but the topic makes me really rethink Gods value system.
 
RealmUncertain said:
You are right about this. I think there is stronger reaction to Polygyny than most other things. I don't even really care about Polygyny, but the topic makes me really rethink Gods value system.
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The strong reactions are I think because people prefer their own opinions. Yes, it changes how we see His system....we see different reasons, different details in it.
It changes our perception of family...and marriage too to one reflecting a unity of maybe mire than two into a single family.

You touched on something else others have mentioned. You start to wonder what else the church is wrong about!
 
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Joleneakamama said:
The strong reactions are I think because people prefer their own opinions.
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I’m not so certain. I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt and assume they really believe that they are defending righteousness, as they have been taught. They are doing right as they believe.

The problem is that they are not being true to revealed faith, only taught faith. Most of them wouldn’t dare see how close they are to Catholicism or Orthodoxy that stresses fidelity to church teachings.
 
Mojo said:
I’m not so certain. I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt and assume they really believe that they are defending righteousness, as they have been taught. They are doing right as they believe.

The problem is that they are not being true to revealed faith, only taught faith. Most of them wouldn’t dare see how close they are to Catholicism or Orthodoxy that stresses fidelity to church teachings.
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I hear you....but most are not of a mindset to "prove all things" if this is one of them. That is why it really seems they prefer to be ignorant, and cling to the opinion they already have.
 
But I’m guilty of laziness on a lot of issues, especially those that don’t pertain to my everyday life. Polygyny doesn’t apply to most folks and their lives. Unless it’s a family member or very close friend that is involved in it, I don’t know why the average person would investigate it. The closest reason I could see is if someone is investigating biblical family structure or researching decline of birth rates, divorce and remarriage, or degradation of social structures.
 
Throughout history, wives have been behind the opinions and the mistakes of many men.
When it comes to polygyny, they often feel that they have a lot to lose if they allow their men to entertain certain thoughts.
 
frederick said:
As my Dad would wisely say, Behind every fallen man there's bound to be a woman or two.
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That’s probably more true than I want it to be.
It does take two to tango and most haven’t fallen by themselves.
 
Question to all that would answer.
What qualifications are needed to fellowship with you?
Do you have any “must haves”, or “must not haves” when you consider fellowship?
 
MrB said:
Question to all that would answer.
What qualifications are needed to fellowship with you?
Do you have any “must haves”, or “must not haves” when you consider fellowship?
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Doctrine or practice?
 
MrB said:
Question to all that would answer.
What qualifications are needed to fellowship with you?
Do you have any “must haves”, or “must not haves” when you consider fellowship?
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I forgot to ask in my last post.
Do you mean fellowship as in worshipping together or in friendship and associating?
 
MrB said:
Question to all that would answer.
What qualifications are needed to fellowship with you?
Do you have any “must haves”, or “must not haves” when you consider fellowship?
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Must confess Jesus and have some visible "fruit." Must not be intentionally living in sin.
 
MrB said:
Question to all that would answer.
What qualifications are needed to fellowship with you?
Do you have any “must haves”, or “must not haves” when you consider fellowship?
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First, define fellowship; friendly association, especially with people who share one's interests.
For longer term friendly association there needs to be common interest.
Must haves... some common interest. :)
Must not haves... strong anti-biblical, or hostile to Christian values.
 
Mojo said:
Doctrine or practice?
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I’m Not really interested in what a church says or is preached.
That boat sailed a long time ago for me
What I’m curious about is what do the individuals here actually practice.
 
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