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Grow up. I don't need to validate your position "must read Scripture" or something similar fo have normal conversation with person.
Do you realize that you have the makings of a point of view that several people over the years (even prominent and respected members) have tried to promote and defend? Your contention that personal revelation and relationship are equally valid to scripture is not a strange concept. You might take it further than some, but it’s been presented around here.

You just have an odd way of communicating it and you purposefully seek to agitate and insult your way through and around it. You, however, approach it that way gleefully with all the markings of a troll and rage baiter.

People have heard your side. Stop mining for online attention and just move on. It’s stale now.
 
You just have an odd way of communicating it and you purposefully seek to agitate and insult your way through and around it. You, however, approach it that way gleefully with all the markings of a troll and rage baiter.

People have heard your side. Stop mining for online attention and just move on. It’s stale now.
I have direct style of communication and I'm curious and way more willing to seek truth than average person. Also, at least in thinking domains I'm willling to go far beyond normal person limits of tolerance.

I'm answering to this exactly:

" WITHOUT READING SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!
Per standard forum etiquee this is considered shouting. I have full right to call someone who is misbehaving toward myself.

Your contribution is to qoute only part of my post so that you can make me look bad, you are judging me by calling troll and rage baiter.

Remind me, what is exactly definition of gaslighting?

This forum was way interesting before. It way truly discussion forum where various opinions could be heard. Now, if people here can't have different opinion than "mainstream" without being called choice word, this is becoming theraphy club. It's fine, I approve and understand you.

EDIT: Rewritten second paragraf, split into two.
 
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Pike was put on a gurney in a death chamber, she was administered the drugs to kill her, and she eventually went unconscious.

From her perspective she faced the death penalty.

That the so-called authorities screwed up is not an excuse to try again.
Disagree, but this is an interesting perspective that I haven't heard often, giving me something to think about.
 
I'm curious and way more willing to seek truth than average person. Also, at least in thinking domains I'm willling to go far beyond normal person limits of tolerance.
Elevated sense of self
Others are less than you.
You possess greater faculties….That’s not being direct. That’s being deliberately condescending.

Thanks for proving my point.

Yes, we’ve all fallen for your baiting. I’m human. I’m just refusing to give you any more satisfaction in your insistence to “seek truth” while tearing others down…
…then claiming victim hood when others respond with ALL CAPS! (I’m only using for emphasis, not really yelling out loud or in my head).

It’s garbage tactics. Take it somewhere else. You’ve supposedly left this forum before for its less than stellar stimulation. Nobody is throwing you out but if we’re all just a bunch of hayseed, hillbilly simpletons with minimal curiosity, why would you continue to lower yourself with the peons?
 
It’s garbage tactics. Take it somewhere else. You’ve supposedly left this forum before for its less than stellar stimulation. Nobody is throwing you out but if we’re all just a bunch of hayseed, hillbilly simpletons with minimal curiosity, why would you continue to lower yourself with the peons?
No one is forcing the same five people to continue responding to @MemeFan. It seems like his posts irk the same particular group of people repeatedly though, lol
 
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Ive gotten to the point where I don’t bother reading certain People’s posts now because I’m very sure the likely hood of them coming up with something of merit is almost zero.
when a large proportion of posts degrade into frivolous arguments this ministry wil cease to be taken seriously.

Why would you pan for gold in a sewer?
 
Ive gotten to the point where I don’t bother reading certain People’s posts now because I’m very sure the likely hood of them coming up with something of merit is almost zero.
when a large proportion of posts degrade into frivolous arguments this ministry wil cease to be taken seriously.

Why would you pan for gold in a sewer?
That's a good random comment. ;)
 
Read again. There are ways to find truth without reading Scripture. How did @paterfamilias and his wives figured out polygyny without Scripture?
That is a rather dense response!

Truth must be consistent, no matter how you find it.
I made a specific claim and you are employing a "Straw Man". Logical Fallacies are how you attempt to deceive people.

You are avoiding answering question. Where is Lord's command to read Scripture? Surely, He didn't forgot something so important.
Because it is an irrelevant question. I made a statement that ought to be obvious to anyone, but you are too dense to pick up on it!

I remember asking questions here on forum and finding not good enough answers.
You were misrepresenting what the Theory actually states. Again, a Straw Man.

It's not my duty to investigate every scientific theory.
Well that is why you are missing the truth.

Assertion without proof.
The proof is here in this forum.

Fine, read Scripture. Keep relying on second hand report which Bible by definition is. Does Bible contain your personal experiences? No, so it's second hand report.
That is not the correct definition of "second hand". If it was written by someone who experienced it, it is by definition a first hand account.

If I have question, I would do obvious. Ask Lord in prayer.
So did Joseph Smith.

Besides, you are again avoiding answering question. What is more important? Lord or Bible?
Would you leave Bible for Lord?
I would never leave the Bible, and I would never have to, since it reveals who our Lord is. Again you employ the False Dichotomy fallacy.

So Lord has stopped Revealing Himself to people? He did only in good old times of writing Scripture? He must be too lazy now.
He warned us about people who claimed that He would reappear. This warning, you would do well to heed. When He returns, He made it quite clear that His return will be visible to everyone.

You know, Bible is full of personal Revelations of Lord. From memory in Scripture Lord Revealed Himself to Abraham, Samuel and Moses. Then all talked with Lord. He must be deaf and mute now.
False dichotomy yet again!

You know, you can ask for something similar. Are finding yourself not worthy enough of His presence?
His presence is in the form of His invisible Holy Spirit.

I do sometimes sense Lord's personal presence. I ask for it and sometimes He shows Himself. I don't need to know He exist, because I know from experience He exists.
Those who belong to Christ all sense the Lord's personal presence. Where you go too far though, is assuming you speak for Him, and that His already revealed word is not good enough for you. Even when what you assert goes against His revealed Word, you believe your personal experience trumps what He has already stated. If you have had a revelation from Christ, I ask how many dead have you raised to life or healed anyone of incurable diseases, or healed the maimed, blind, deaf or mute? What is your proof that your special revelation comes from God? Was it speaking in tongues? Which tongue? What were you saying when you spoke in tongues? Even Paul could curse a man with blindness! Have you been able to do this?

You can pray for it and He will answer it.
OK. But like the Bereans, everything must be checked against Scripture.

And which spirit did show to Joseph Smith?
He claimed to have seen the Father Son and Holy Spirit.

Besides, why I want want to know what was Joseph Smith's experience, when I can pray for my own?
What I want to know, is how can anyone know that your experience is legit, when you claim to speak for God, just as Joseph Smith did! How can we know that you are not just spouting a bunch of nonsense?

Stop screaming Scripture. Have a normal conversation.
Again, this forum is called Biblical Families. You are in the wrong group. You need to start a group called "Common Sense Families".

Grow up. I don't need to validate your position "must read Scripture" or something similar fo have normal conversation with person.
Take your own advice and leave this forum! Get out! Go away! You don't belong here!
 
That is not the correct definition of "second hand". If it was written by someone who experienced it, it is by definition a first hand account.

Not everybody who acted in Bible is biblical writer.

I would never leave the Bible, and I would never have to, since it reveals who our Lord is. Again you employ the False Dichotomy fallacy.

All my ideas as based on Bible. I regulary qoute Bible. I start with idea from Bible and logically follow to conclusion.

Lord in Bible has commanded to seek His Kingdom first and First Command of love. So naturally, both imply Lord has commanded us to make Him first priority.

So, if you have to choose between Lord and Bible, Lord's command is to choose Him.

You can disprove me in following ways:

1) There is no such this as First Love Command or command to seek His Kingdom first.
2)If those commands are true, maybe they don't imply Lord is first priority
3) You have some other biblical basis why I'm incorrect. By the way, it better be stronger than Lord's commands.

He warned us about people who claimed that He would reappear. This warning, you would do well to heed. When He returns, He made it quite clear that His return will be visible to everyone.

You are implying Second Coming. I made no such claim.

What is revelation? Disclosure, unweiling.

So literally anytime Jesus shows someone something of Himself, he is doing Revelation.

Atheist who after near death experience becomes convincted Jesus is real has received Revelation because during experience Jesus has shown Himself to him.

Those who belong to Christ all sense the Lord's personal presence. Where you go too far though, is assuming you speak for Him, and that His already revealed word is not good enough for you. Even when what you assert goes against His revealed Word, you believe your personal experience trumps what He has already stated. If you have had a revelation from Christ, I ask how many dead have you raised to life or healed anyone of incurable diseases, or healed the maimed, blind, deaf or mute? What is your proof that your special revelation comes from God? Was it speaking in tongues? Which tongue? What were you saying when you spoke in tongues? Even Paul could curse a man with blindness! Have you been able to do this?

I don't claim being prophet or anything special. I claim zero usage of any revelation. I claim logically following what is written in Bible.

What I want to know, is how can anyone know that your experience is legit, when you claim to speak for God, just as Joseph Smith did! How can we know that you are not just spouting a bunch of nonsense?

I made no such claim of speaking in Lord's name.

Take your own advice and leave this forum! Get out! Go
away! You don't belong here!

I thought we are here to discuss Bible.
 
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Elevated sense of self
Others are less than you.
You possess greater faculties….That’s not being direct. That’s being deliberately condescending.
Chess grandmaster seeing himself as better than others is seeking reality accurately (at least in chess)

Virtuous man seeing himself as better than others is seeing reality accurately.

There is no possible complaint against that.

All you can do is find domains where you are can be great and use your gifts for benefits of mankind.

What are your gifts and where you see your contribution?

Nobody is throwing you out but if we’re all just a bunch of hayseed, hillbilly simpletons with minimal curiosity, why would you continue to lower yourself with the peons?

That peonage is your idea. What would I use such BS?

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