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The UFO/UAP disclosures of May 2026

MeganC

MeganC

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Just wanted to open a discussion about the recent UFO/UAP disclosures.

Myself, I am irked that after eighty years of lies, denials, mockery, ridicule, late night FBI raids, and even murders the US Government is saying that whatever these things are they are real.

They are not weather balloons or swamp gas.

But they are something.

I also get the impression that the series of disclosures that are set to happen every two weeks are a lead up to acknowledging that aliens of some sort are known to exist. President Obama recently said something to that effect and then President Trump validated what Obama said. Trump said that Obama shared classified information. Which validates that there was something to keep secret.

For myself this has zero impact on my beliefs. Even if aliens go public I'm still firm in my belief that God exists and acts in my life.

Thoughts?
 
Our God is a Creator.
It just might be arrogant to assume that He stopped with us.
 
I have to admit that if aliens were real that I would have to examine done of my beliefs very intently. I’m sure many of them would survive largely intact but not all.

It would probably be akin to 17th century people starting to discover fossils and struggling to put that in a Biblical context.
 
Some things to consider are that
A) even if there are creatures flying around, do we know for certain that they are from outside our atmosphere? I’m sure there are creatures at the depths of the ocean that we may never see. Are these creatures from the highest heights of our atmosphere?
B) Are these creatures necessarily intelligent and rational, logical? Microbiology gave us the tardigrade (nasty alien looking creature). We never knew it lived on and in our skin.
C) If it’s not A and B, they wouldn’t necessarily negate scripture and creation design. Adam was created in the image of God. Humans are image bearers. They could be intelligent biotic creatures, but so are whales, dolphins and primates. None of them are image bearers, yet we interact with them on a very intelligent level.
 
Mojo said:
Some things to consider are that
A) even if there are creatures flying around, do we know for certain that they are from outside our atmosphere? I’m sure there are creatures at the depths of the ocean that we may never see. Are these creatures from the highest heights of our atmosphere?
B) Are these creatures necessarily intelligent and rational, logical? Microbiology gave us the tardigrade (nasty alien looking creature). We never knew it lived on and in our skin.
C) If it’s not A and B, they wouldn’t necessarily negate scripture and creation design. Adam was created in the image of God. Humans are image bearers. They could be intelligent biotic creatures, but so are whales, dolphins and primates. None of them are image bearers, yet we interact with them on a very intelligent level.
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Regarding A, how did nobody found them in whold history of mankind before 20th century?
 
steve said:
Our God is a Creator.
It just might be arrogant to assume that He stopped with us.
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True, but if you do the math the chances of us encountering a sentient alien species are abysmal at best.


Let's assume 1 out of every thousand worlds has multicellular life. That's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 worlds, 1 quintillion.
Let's assume out of those 1 quintillion multicellular worlds that 1 in 1000 has something resembling animals. 1,000,000,000,000,000. That's 1 quadrillion worlds with animal life.

Let's assume 1 in 10 of those have some sort of sentient life that has developed the use of tools, even if they are primitive. That's 10 TRILLION worlds.

10 trillion worlds scattered among 100 billion galaxies gives an average of 100 tool-building worlds in our galaxy. Then you have 13.8 billion years to spread those out over.

Also consider that any planet with a gravitational field even slightly stronger than Earth's would make it impossible to reach space with chemical rockets, which would likely cause any space program to just not happen, barring some radical technological developments, unless they were using something like electromagnetic mass drivers to launch probes only....


Ok lets be more generous...

Say 1 in 2 stars has a planet or moon that supports life. 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets with life. Say 1 in 2 of those has tool-building life, 250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Now, let's assume that in the first billion years of our galaxy, there were ZERO tool-building species. That leaves you with 12.21 billion years to divide 25,000 civilizations over a galaxy with a 100,000-180,000 light-year diameter. Let's assume 140,000 light-years. That's more than 15,000,000,000 square light-years.

That gives us 1 tool-building civilization per 600,000 square light-years spread out over 12 billion years...


UAPs/UFOs probably aren't aliens.
 
UtahLife said:
True, but if you do the math the chances of us encountering a sentient alien species are abysmal at best.


Let's assume 1 out of every thousand worlds has multicellular life. That's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 worlds, 1 quintillion.
Let's assume out of those 1 quintillion multicellular worlds that 1 in 1000 has something resembling animals. 1,000,000,000,000,000. That's 1 quadrillion worlds with animal life.

Let's assume 1 in 10 of those have some sort of sentient life that has developed the use of tools, even if they are primitive. That's 10 TRILLION worlds.

10 trillion worlds scattered among 100 billion galaxies gives an average of 100 tool-building worlds in our galaxy. Then you have 13.8 billion years to spread those out over.

Also consider that any planet with a gravitational field even slightly stronger than Earth's would make it impossible to reach space with chemical rockets, which would likely cause any space program to just not happen, barring some radical technological developments, unless they were using something like electromagnetic mass drivers to launch probes only....


Ok lets be more generous...

Say 1 in 2 stars has a planet or moon that supports life. 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets with life. Say 1 in 2 of those has tool-building life, 250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Now, let's assume that in the first billion years of our galaxy, there were ZERO tool-building species. That leaves you with 12.21 billion years to divide 25,000 civilizations over a galaxy with a 100,000-180,000 light-year diameter. Let's assume 140,000 light-years. That's more than 15,000,000,000 square light-years.

That gives us 1 tool-building civilization per 600,000 square light-years spread out over 12 billion years...


UAPs/UFOs probably aren't aliens.
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Either Yah created them, or He didn’t.
Math doesn’t apply in creation. In fact, according to the math we don’t exist.
 
MemeFan said:
Regarding A, how did nobody found them in whold history of mankind before 20th century?
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Who says they didn’t?

Besides, space flight didnt exist until the 20th century. My supposition is that these things might just live only in our atmosphere. They have sufficient density to float continuously. The atmosphere is essentially an ocean of air. The higher you go, the less dense, and the lower you go it’s more dense. It’s the same for the ocean. Ocean creature wiz around the depths with ease. Why can’t an atmospheric creature do the same?
 
MemeFan said:
Regarding A, how did nobody found them in whold history of mankind before 20th century?
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They did. Either they had the wisdom not to talk about it or they let it go as a 'vision'.

It also stands to reason that when humanity developed nuclear fission that it was detected by the aliens and we were suddenly more interesting to them than before.

I hate to cite this but like in Star Trek where it can be detected when a civilization develops warp technology and at that point the Federation initiates first contact. Prior to that the civilization is left alone.

The question to me is that after we became interesting to the aliens did they merely observe us or have they been interfering in human affairs? Are they responsible for the horrible changes in world culture since the 1960's?
 
MemeFan said:
Regarding A, how did nobody found them in whold history of mankind before 20th century?
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I think people did talk about them.
The history of the world is full of stories of these sorts of things.

Wheels within wheels
Chariots of fire
Angels
Demons
Watchers
Nephillim
Big foot
Spirits in the mountains, deserts, waters, and trees

gods of the Greco/Roman/Babylonian/Norse/Egyptian/Summerian/Persians/Canaanite/Babylonians

Jiin/Jinn
Fae folk
Leprechaun

Every civilization in history has these sorts of stories.

It is simply the supernatural realm. I don't know what all is in it, but it is real, and it fits within the Biblical framework.

The odds of them being biological life forms from distant galaxies (like Star Trek) is very unlikely.

The odds of them being agents of the spirit that is at work in the sons of disobedience is very high.
 
Bartato said:
I think people did talk about them.
The history of the world is full of stories of these sorts of things.

Wheels within wheels
Chariots of fire
Angels
Demons
Watchers
Nephillim
Big foot
Spirits in the mountains, deserts, waters, and trees

gods of the Greco/Roman/Babylonian/Norse/Egyptian/Summerian/Persians/Canaanite/Babylonians

Jiin/Jinn
Fae folk
Leprechaun

Every civilization in history has these sorts of stories.

It is simply the supernatural realm. I don't know what all is in it, but it is real, and it fits within the Biblical framework.

The odds of them being biological life forms from distant galaxies (like Star Trek) is very unlikely.

The odds of them being agents of the spirit that is at work in the sons of disobedience is very high.
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Does it pollute the gospel and the need of mankind for a Savior? That is one of my criteria.
 
Maddog said:
Does it pollute the gospel and the need of mankind for a Savior? That is one of my criteria.
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No. Not at all. No more than it did when people realized that:

1. The earth is round.
2. The earth is not the center of our solar system.
3. The earth is not the center of the universe.
4. Air has weight.
5. Atoms are real.
6. Bacteria and viruses (germs) are real.
7. Genes are real.
8. People can fly.
9. People can fly in space.
10. The moon is not beyond our reach.
11. It isn't witchcraft to use modern medicine.
12. Radio communications are real.

etc.
 
MeganC said:
No. Not at all. No more than it did when people realized that:

1. The earth is round.
2. The earth is not the center of our solar system.
3. The earth is not the center of the universe.
4. Air has weight.
5. Atoms are real.
6. Bacteria and viruses (germs) are real.
7. Genes are real.
8. People can fly.
9. People can fly in space.
10. The moon is not beyond our reach.
11. It isn't witchcraft to use modern medicine.
12. Radio communications are real.

etc.
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I'm not 100% certain on a couple of those.😉

I have isolated structures that look like tobamoviruses from tobacco host plants displaying symptoms consistent with tobacco mosaic virus, and viewed them with the use of an electron microscope. I've taken a semester long graduate level course on viral plant pathogens as well as some other microbiology and plant pathology. I'm still not quite sure what to think about viruses. 🤔

Viruses are probably what people say they are.

After the Covid fiasco, I lost a lot of confidence in "science".

Now bacteria, nematodes, and fungi are a whole different story. I can see those guys with a basic light microscope (and have one of those in my basement), so I know they are real. 😁

I haven't seen the aliens but have seen that the government lies all the time.
 
Bartato said:
After the Covid fiasco, I lost a lot of confidence in "science".
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Science is a process and not a religion. By design you are not supposed to have confidence in anyone who tells you to "trust the science". The very nature of science demands that it be questioned, tested, and revisited as new information comes to light.

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MeganC said:
Science is a process and not a religion. By design you are not supposed to have confidence in anyone who tells you to "trust the science". The very nature of science demands that it be questioned, tested, and revisited as new information comes to light.

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“I am the Science”…Dr. Fauci
 
Bartato said:
I haven't seen the aliens but have seen that the government lies all the time.
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Yes, I was quite comfortable with the idea that everything is 180 degrees out of phase with what our government tells us. Things have gone into a tailspin if “they” start telling us that aliens are real.
 
Bartato said:
It is simply the supernatural realm. I don't know what all is in it, but it is real, and it fits within the Biblical framework.

The odds of them being biological life forms from distant galaxies (like Star Trek) is very unlikely.

The odds of them being agents of the spirit that is at work in the sons of disobedience is very high.
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This is my stance as well. I do not believe that life was created on other planets, not anything of interest.

In the last half a decade since Covid happened, the importance of the 6,000 year history has become very clarified to me.

When I was in college as a younger man, I went fully down the Whitley Strieber pathway. During that time the concept that there was life on other planets and interstellar aliens visiting us consumed my evenings. It led me to wild, very New Age actions, essentially crying out from my balcony asking them to come down and commune with me. Just, frankly, insane ways of thinking.

Now my grounding in the Bible and Yahweh's direction is so strong that I do not think anything could convince me that they are not really deceptive spiritual beings. I could tell you that I think they'll be some form of evil spiritual being, like a fallen angel or a demon. The reality is that while I believe the Bible gives us truths about the spiritual realm, I do not believe that the Bible even begins to explain the real world of the spirit or the beings which inhabit it. These could be something underscored. Or, it may be that they are Powers, or that they are Principalities.

It does feel like this is a time of unveiling, but I do not believe it will be a time of truth.
 
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