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Will people be married in heaven? Angels + Woman Flood

If I remember correctly the word used for marriage in the passage where Jesus says there will be no giving or taking in marriage is only used that one time in scripture. Now clearly sex could be included in this statement but it’s not the simplest , most straightforward way to say it if it is. The topic is highly speculative and no hard conclusions can or should be drawn here. I do think that this is the one of the few times we can mix Shakespeare and the Bible intentionally and not just because we can’t tell the difference between the King James Version, Shakespeare and Ben Franklin; “There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamed of in your philosophy Horatio.”
 
tps26 said:
I have some loosely held thoughts on this.

To me, marriage seems synonymous with ownership. It serves the purpose to ensure there is no question of whose seed is produced; who reaps what they have sown. The children belong to the man who planted the seed. His wife belongs to him to plant in so there is no confusion. The man submits to the will of the father and works the thorny ground to bring his women into the same submission (Numbers 30). Because the seed can then be traced back directly through a man it always points back to the first Creator, the importance of the geneology. Utimately the only seed planted in all of us will be the Word, and we will bear fruit accordingly, as all other words/seed will be filtered out by their own wickedness.

When we are resurrected, we don't need to have the order of ownership in place because we will all be in submission to the Father, and only his word will endure.

Jesus was a recognizable male when he was resurrected and when he ascended into heaven. There is no fruit in endlessly dwelling on what bodies we will be ressurected in, but I think we can at least make an assumption that our bodies might be like his, since there were witnesses to a resurrected body.

If it is, then we might not be sexless beings. I don't see any reason why there would not still be sexual union between male and female in heaven. No marriage doesn't mean no sex, it just means no ownership.

Now as a man I have had a tendancy to make an idol of sex, so I don't want to propogate this idea just to hold on to something I like on earth, when there is really something better for us later. But I just want to point out that maybe "marriage" is an earthly necessity but sex is essentially just unity between a man and a woman.

Feel free to poke some holes in my line of thinking to help me grasp this better!
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Thank you for posting that so eloquently. I was afraid I might be the only one thinking along those lines.
 
I have found more tantalizing information hiding in plain sight. Isaiah 11 is generally considered, and in my opinion has to, be a prophecy about heaven. You’ve all heard this verse before but I never made the connection to this issue until this evening. Verse 8 in the ESV reads “ The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra and weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.”
So there a nursing and weaned children in heaven. This seems significant. I recognize that there are some legitimate arguments against even taking this passage literally let alone drawing such a momentous conclusion as saying that there will be sex and childbirth in Heaven. And even if we assumed that there will be a literal fulfillment of this prophecy to go along with the more important main point we could still come up with objections, these children could have been children at the Second Coming and so remain children in eternity. This seems unlikely but no more speculative than saying that there will be sex and childbearing in Heaven.

And yet this is a pretty explicit statement, it says that there will be nursing children in Heaven. I personally believe that all of God’s Words are true that n every sense. Even the parables of Jesus were true events in my opinion. So when this well known prophecy there will be nursing children in Heaven I accept that it may indeed be mainly allegorical in nature but it will nonetheless have a literal fulfillment. So I have to accept that there will be literal nursing children in Heaven. How? Well the most obvious answer is that there will be sex and pair bonding. We know it won’t be marriage, we will all be married to the Ultimate Bridegroom at that point anyway, but it seems at least possible that we will be able to carry on some kind of intimacy that mirrors that which we’re already familiar with. And this isn’t without precedent in the scant details we know about Heaven. We will still eat. We will have some use houses and streets and gates in to a city (implying that we will have reason to come and go). We know that there will be animals there, down to various kinds of snakes and even grass eating lions if you read the rest of the chapter, and that we will apparently take our children to see them.
I am very interested to hear what everyone thinks.
 
We will be glorified saints in heaven i.e. New Jerusalem. Out side the city there will be flessh and blood people who survive the Trib and live thru the 1000 years and on to the New Earth. Life for them will continue as now but without sin ever spreading to contamanate the universe again.
 
The Revolting Man said:
I have found more tantalizing information hiding in plain sight. Isaiah 11 is generally considered, and in my opinion has to, be a prophecy about heaven. You’ve all heard this verse before but I never made the connection to this issue until this evening. Verse 8 in the ESV reads “ The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra and weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.”
So there a nursing and weaned children in heaven. This seems significant. I recognize that there are some legitimate arguments against even taking this passage literally let alone drawing such a momentous conclusion as saying that there will be sex and childbirth in Heaven. And even if we assumed that there will be a literal fulfillment of this prophecy to go along with the more important main point we could still come up with objections, these children could have been children at the Second Coming and so remain children in eternity. This seems unlikely but no more speculative than saying that there will be sex and childbearing in Heaven.

And yet this is a pretty explicit statement, it says that there will be nursing children in Heaven. I personally believe that all of God’s Words are true that n every sense. Even the parables of Jesus were true events in my opinion. So when this well known prophecy there will be nursing children in Heaven I accept that it may indeed be mainly allegorical in nature but it will nonetheless have a literal fulfillment. So I have to accept that there will be literal nursing children in Heaven. How? Well the most obvious answer is that there will be sex and pair bonding. We know it won’t be marriage, we will all be married to the Ultimate Bridegroom at that point anyway, but it seems at least possible that we will be able to carry on some kind of intimacy that mirrors that which we’re already familiar with. And this isn’t without precedent in the scant details we know about Heaven. We will still eat. We will have some use houses and streets and gates in to a city (implying that we will have reason to come and go). We know that there will be animals there, down to various kinds of snakes and even grass eating lions if you read the rest of the chapter, and that we will apparently take our children to see them.
I am very interested to hear what everyone thinks.
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I have been reading through Thelyphthora recently. Those church fathers who promoted celibacy, are in for a rude awakening!
 
Jim an Apostle said:
We will be glorified saints in heaven i.e. New Jerusalem. Out side the city there will be flessh and blood people who survive the Trib and live thru the 1000 years and on to the New Earth. Life for them will continue as now but without sin ever spreading to contamanate the universe again.
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What about those whose names are not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life? What does it mean when it says that he who believes has eternal life, and he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed...?
 
Daniel DeLuca said:
What about those whose names are not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life? What does it mean when it says that he who believes has eternal life, and he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed...?
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The righteous dead are resurrected at the beginning of the 1000 years. those alive at that time live in the flesh an if they do not sin worthy of death they live forever but in the flesh an blood state.

The unbelievers are resurrected at the end of the 1000 years and they appear at the great white throne judgment. They are judged and cast into outer darkness and hell where the fire is not quenched and the worm dieth not. This is the second death. Those resurrected at the beginning of the 1000 years were the righteous dead. Those kin the flesh, who remain obedient, after the first resurrection do not die as long as they are obedient.

The eternal state will have God the Father, The Holy Spirit (Gods omni-presence) Jesus the Son, we His body the resurrected saints, angels, flesh and blood humans, animals. plus whatever heavenly creatures there such as the four beast around the throne etc. Spirit animals such as the heavenly horses we shall ride. The wicked confined to hell.

With the continuance of flesh and blood on the earth the increase of His government shall be no end. In time enve the New earth will be filled with people. The desire to explore space is from God. we are just not ready yet. God does not want us spreading sin and rebellion, so that will be dealt with first.

Eventually the universe will be filled with worship. we shall our start reign over cities maybe a county or state or nation but eventually we will colonize the universe with the new souls that are born. Then vastness of the universe will not be wasted or empty space. Eternity will not be boring!
 
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